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Sarah Palin Wants Civil Discourse, about "down right evil" healthcare

In 2008 Presidential Elections,economics/money,politics,stupidity on August 10, 2009 by Editor Z

Ex- Alaska Governor and former Republican Vice Presidential Candidate Sarah Palin just days ago on her face book page embraced the right wing tall tales about Health care reform stating that a provision that will allow medicare to cover living wills giving those who choose access to “an end of life councilor” means Euthanasia will be in Obama health care legislation. As not uncommon for Palin at times she used her children even her young infant as a political prop to appeal to the most ardent elements of the conservative movement, the insurance lobby, and likely hopes to hook in a few misinformed or politically uninformed voters; by inferring that children with disabilities, the infirm, and elderly would have to go before a “death panel” and that health care reform is “down right evil”.

ANCHORAGE (AP) — In her first communication since leaving office, former Alaska governor Sarah Palin said in an Internet posting Friday that President Obama’s plan to overhaul the health care system was “evil.”

“Who will suffer the most when they ration care? The sick, the elderly, and the disabled, of course,” the former vice presidential candidate wrote on her Facebook page.

“The America I know and love is not one in which my parents or my baby with Down Syndrome will have to stand in front of Obama’s ‘death panel’ so his bureaucrats can decide, based on a subjective judgment of their ‘level of productivity in society,’ whether they are worthy of health care. Such a system is downright evil,” Palin wrote.

An e-mail sent to Palin’s spokeswoman to confirm authorship was not immediately returned Friday.

First off there is no death panel and honestly if Obama was pushing such a policy you would think he or anyone else wouldn’t be stupid enough to call it a “death panel”.

Anyway from her rhetoric ascribing evil policies to Obama and the obsession that the right currently has with comparing Obama and everything to the left of Ann Coulter with Nazis and Hitler, and sending signals of latent and sometimes overt racism that has begun to bubble up, especially among the least evolved minds of southern and bible belt whites above the age of 50. That is not to say there aren’t legitimate issues and concerns about any health care legislation and that representatives should not be held accountable for what they vote and advocate, but that when someone hurls references to Hitler and the threat of Nazism around; it implies that action no matter by what means must be taken to defeat that figure and perhaps even eliminate them. Even when the left compared Bush to Hitler that was equally erroneous and moronic. But for some reason some conservatives are so ill-educated and consumed by hatred rather towards the policy, or Obama and Obama’s background himself, they have dispensed with logic altogether.

But I digress, Ben Smith reports that on Sunday in a move that would make fellow conservatives Richard Nixon grin, the queen of conservatism with the June Cleaver vernacular has stated that she is disturbed by the ugly discourse without acknowledging her contribution to it.

“There are many disturbing details in the current bill that Washington is trying to rush through Congress, but we must stick to a discussion of the issues and not get sidetracked by tactics that can be accused of leading to intimidation or harassment,” Palin wrote. “Such tactics diminish our nation’s civil discourse which we need now more than ever because the fine print in this outrageous health care proposal must be understood clearly and not get lost in conscientious voters’ passion to want to make elected officials hear what we are saying. Let’s not give the proponents of nationalized health care any reason to criticize us.”

Seriously the conservative base that Palin represents is getting so predictable. Criticize a policy using histrionics and inflated rhetoric that demonize the opponents which riles the Janissary s, then after a brief time come out and disavow the fervor you helped brew. Her lack of policy and her polemics prove that Plain may be great at exploiting the resentment of white middle-aged undereducated straight church going Americans in the conservative populist mold of a modern day George Wallace, but that on policy and any grasp of it, her portfolio is thin to say the least and her interest seems to be even less. One can’t help but start to see a little George W Bush or Richard Nixon behind that lipstick and thick framed glasses. We had George W Bush, a conservative in a similar mode for eight years, what makes anyone think she can implement Bush’s policies with different results just because she wears high heels?

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Lou Dobbs Joins ‘Birthers’

In 2008 Presidential Elections,Chattering classes/punditry,stupidity,television on July 22, 2009 by Editor Z


Here is a copy of Barack Obama’s Birth Certificate.

Ever since the 2008 Democratic Presidential Primaries started in earnest back in 2007 and then Senator Barack Obama (D-Ill) started to gain traction there have been inane conspiracy theories that he hasn’t produced a birth certificate and wasn’t born in this country, despite the fact you can easily find his birth certificate online. By extension these conspiracy theorists take this erroneous assertion to say that Obama really isn’t American or ‘one of us’ , and that he is really some kind of Al-Queda plant sent here to take over America from inside its government and turn us all into Muslims.

Nobody truly intelligent would go along with this because like I said you can easily find an official copy of his birth certificate online. The rumor would rise again time and time again, throughout the primaries and General election and despite the stupidity, as Albert Camus once said “stupidity has a knack of getting its way”, and this vacuous attack has continued to be used, including by wingnut and former Obama senate rival Alan Keyes (R,MD,Ill, or wherever there is a vacant Republican office). Many would expect that from someone like Alan Keyes because, well he’s Alan Keyes.

Some members of congress, ‘tea baggers’ in the Pat Buchanan mold, and other elements of the blogosphere have used this as a way to rail against Obama’s policies and Obama himself. However, it also seems to be a way to continue to exploit the stupidity of those ill-developed minds who posses xenophobic, ethnic, and racial hatreds. Really they can’t call Obama the n-word, or call for “states rights”, and come out and just say we hate blacks; so they use every theory and tool no matter how inaccurate or absurd to hit this message home. They have come to be known as “birthers” and quite frankly they are as ridiculous, absurd, and are the right wing equivalent to those on the far left (and some on the far right) known as “truthers” who claim George W Bush and the U.S government orchestrated 9/11.

Now in a sad commentary on the state of cable news; CNN’s Lou Dobbs is raising his pitchfork and joining the party. After all where there is xenophobic ignorance to be exploited, there is Lou Dobbs.

“This isn’t one of those things that goes away quite as easily as I’d thought,” Dobbs says, saying that this isn’t the “fringe” and that Obama hasn’t produced a birth certificate. (He long ago released an official copy, the standard document. As often noted, it actually does go away quite easily.)

“I have no idea what the reality is here,” says Dobbs, later wondering, “You suppose he’s undoc — no, I wouldn’t use the word ‘undocumented,’ wouldn’t be right.”

You know Lou if you just used Google I am sure you could find the answers, but i guess research would conflict with the xenophobic barn burning diatribes that are what you do best.

UPDATE (10:10AMET)- Liz Cheney a birther? Well if you believe the Iraq War was an ingenious maneuver in the field of foreign policy I guess you can believe anything. Actually I don’t know which this association discredits more the birthers because of their association Liz Cheney, or if Liz Cheney because of her association with the birthers.

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The Seven Month Minnesota Nightmare is Over

In 2008 Presidential Elections,legal issues/law/courts,politics,U.S government on June 30, 2009 by Editor Z

This afternoon it became official. In one of the longest and most drawn out contest in American political history ex-Senator Norm Coleman (R-MN) has ceded his challenge to ex-SNL star and comic turned Democratic Senate Candidate Al Franken, following a legal tangle.

The state Supreme Court had ruled unanimously today, in favor of Franken, following legal challenges since Franken’s narrow victory in November. The court stated Franken was entitled to have his election certified and to be officially seated, a process that requires the signature of Governor and 2012 prospective Republican Presidential contender Tim Pawlenty (R-MN). This now officially gives U.S Senate Democrats what is officially a filibuster proof majority if all Senators vote the party line.

Politico:

Republican Norm Coleman has conceded to Democrat Al Franken in the Minnesota Senate race, ending one of the longest Senate races in American history and clearing the way for Democrats to hold a 60-seat supermajority in the Senate.

Coleman’s concession, given from the front of his St. Paul home, came just a few hours after the Minnesota Supreme Court on Tuesday unanimously ruled Franken the winner of last November’s Senate race. In a unanimous 5-0 decision, the court upheld a three-judge panel’s April 14 ruling that Franken defeated Coleman in the race by 312 votes out of 2.9 million cast. The 32-page opinion was remarkably decisive, picking apart and rejecting one Coleman legal claim after another.

In its final line of the ruling, the state Supreme Court said Franken is “entitled” under Minnesota law to “receive the certificate election as United States senator from the state of Minnesota.”

“The Supreme Court of Minnesota has spoken and I respect its decision and will abide by the result,” Coleman said. “It’s time for Minnesota to come together under the leaders it has chosen and move forward. I join all Minnesotans in congratulating our newest United States Senator – Al Franken


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"Plumber" on Free Speech: God Doesn’t this Guy Ever Just go Away?

In 2008 Presidential Elections,politics,stupidity,War on the rational/ logic on February 27, 2009 by Editor Z

Sam Wurzelbacher “Joe” the “plumber” was at that chorus of caterwauling that is the CPAC convention where I guess post rationals and neocons would rub his hairless crown for wisdom, or something and selling, or at least trying to sell books.

When an audience member made reference to a statement that Plumber made earlier this week that if elected to Congress he would slap congress, he elaborated on that statement again. This time he seemed to elude to the idea of shooting any elected Representative that was critical of the Iraq War or the troops in anyway. But he was sure to say that although he espouses this he still believes in free speech. Just like he believes in being a war reporter, but that war reporters just shouldn’t be reporting about wars, but just crafting pro-government propaganda.

This guy truly is a combination of a political Paris Hilton, and he is about as overexposed as “Octo mom” and even rational conservatives know it.

This transcript of the video above (H/T: Think Progress)

Back in the day, really, when people would talk about our military in a poor way, somebody would shoot ‘em. And there’d be nothing said about that, because they knew it was wrong. You don’t talk about our troops. You support our troops. Especially when our congressmen and senators sit there and say bad things in an ongoing conflict.

Between the talk of labeling Obama a “radical communist”, a neoconservative former acting UN ambassador relishing the idea of more American bloodshed, and this;it seems that if Conservatives keep this up they will keep alienating the country at large and as in the 2008 Election remain a viable political force only in the old Dixie south, the bible belt, and the troika of states in the Mountain west (Wyoming, Utah, and Idaho).

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"It May Sound a Bit Crazy"

In 2008 Presidential Elections,President Barack Obama,stupidity,television on November 11, 2008 by Editor Z


Congressman, meet straight jacket; straight jacket meet Congressman.

One U.S Represenative from the state of Georgia is hoping on that right wing by employing Hitler references as a campaign tactic against Democratic President-Elect Barack Obama. The congress man Paul Broun stumbled his own little Godwin’s Law moment, insists he is not comparing Obama to Hitler, but says that he has great anxiety about “that type of philosphy of radical socialism or marxism”. Broun is right , it does sound “crazy and off base”.

I agree that we should always be skeptical of any leader and speak truth to power, and keep our leaders in check. Our system of checks and balances needs to be excersized at all levels just as our founding fathers and mothers intended. But comparing nearly anyone to Hitler (even Dick Cheney and the concept of pre-emptive war) is way off base and more then borders on the absurd. Obama has reittereated time and again his love and devotion to America and the need for personal responsibility and openess in government. Somebody needs to tell this guy the campaign is over.

Brietbart:

“It may sound a bit crazy and off base, but the thing is, he’s the one who proposed this national security force,” Rep. Paul Broun said of Obama in an interview Monday with The Associated Press. “I’m just trying to bring attention to the fact that we may — may not, I hope not — but we may have a problem with that type of philosophy of radical socialism or Marxism.”

Broun cited a July speech by Obama that has circulated on the Internet in which the then-Democratic presidential candidate called for a civilian force to take some of the national security burden off the military.

“That’s exactly what Hitler did in Nazi Germany and it’s exactly what the Soviet Union did,” Broun said. “When he’s proposing to have a national security force that’s answering to him, that is as strong as the U.S. military, he’s showing me signs of being Marxist.”

Also I am no political theorist but comparing Hitler and Marxism is like comparing a worm to a fish. Hitler himself was anti-Marxist and anti-communist. He in fact viewed communism as part of a Jewish International conspiracy and that it was the Marxists as well as Jews in Hitler’s deranged mind that caused Germany to loose World War I and were therefore were the enemies of Hitler and Nazis.

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"It May Sound a Bit Crazy"

In 2008 Presidential Elections,President Barack Obama,stupidity,television on November 11, 2008 by Editor Z


Congressman, meet straight jacket; straight jacket meet Congressman.

One U.S Represenative from the state of Georgia is hoping on that right wing by employing Hitler references as a campaign tactic against Democratic President-Elect Barack Obama. The congress man Paul Broun stumbled his own little Godwin’s Law moment, insists he is not comparing Obama to Hitler, but says that he has great anxiety about “that type of philosphy of radical socialism or marxism”. Broun is right , it does sound “crazy and off base”.

I agree that we should always be skeptical of any leader and speak truth to power, and keep our leaders in check. Our system of checks and balances needs to be excersized at all levels just as our founding fathers and mothers intended. But comparing nearly anyone to Hitler (even Dick Cheney and the concept of pre-emptive war) is way off base and more then borders on the absurd. Obama has reittereated time and again his love and devotion to America and the need for personal responsibility and openess in government. Somebody needs to tell this guy the campaign is over.

Brietbart:

“It may sound a bit crazy and off base, but the thing is, he’s the one who proposed this national security force,” Rep. Paul Broun said of Obama in an interview Monday with The Associated Press. “I’m just trying to bring attention to the fact that we may — may not, I hope not — but we may have a problem with that type of philosophy of radical socialism or Marxism.”

Broun cited a July speech by Obama that has circulated on the Internet in which the then-Democratic presidential candidate called for a civilian force to take some of the national security burden off the military.

“That’s exactly what Hitler did in Nazi Germany and it’s exactly what the Soviet Union did,” Broun said. “When he’s proposing to have a national security force that’s answering to him, that is as strong as the U.S. military, he’s showing me signs of being Marxist.”

Also I am no political theorist but comparing Hitler and Marxism is like comparing a worm to a fish. Hitler himself was anti-Marxist and anti-communist. He in fact viewed communism as part of a Jewish International conspiracy and that it was the Marxists as well as Jews in Hitler’s deranged mind that caused Germany to loose World War I and were therefore were the enemies of Hitler and Nazis.

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Focus on the Family uses" Obama is Hitler" Line as Fundraiser

In 2008 Presidential Elections,President Barack Obama,Religion,television on November 8, 2008 by Editor Z

Just in case anyone thought that the vitrol on the far right would cease with the end of the Presidential election earlier this week, you would be wrong.

According to unbossed.com, the group of social theocons and “pro-family” advocates that calls themselves “Focus on the Family” sent out a fundraising letter. Here is some of what it said. According to the latest from Dr Dobson’s land of make believe and swindel, he is Winston Churchill, his funders are the British underattack by nazis, and Obama is suprise….. Hitler! And you to can evidently be saved too, ifone sends a few dollars to this guy who cares supposedly all about human life, as long as its a fetus that is.

You may recall that in the most desperate days of World War II – when Great Britain was being pounded daily by Hitler’s Luftwaffe – that Winston Churchill called on his countrymen not to despair from danger but to rise to the challenge.

“Do not speak of darker days,” he said. “Let us speak rather of sterner days. These are not dark days; these are great days — the greatest days our country has ever lived; and we shall all thank God that we have been allowed, each one of us according to our stations, to play a part in making these days memorable. …”

As our incredible team of staff members watched the election results pour in on Election Night, an amazing thing happened that Churchill might have recognized. Despite some sobering disappointments, there was no mood of despair and no “bunker mentality.” Instead, a firm sense of resolve began to permeate our team — a spirited and determined recognition that now, more than ever, we must prayerfully and boldly shine the light of truth in the public arena and defend what is right.

Sometimes its hard to tell if people like Dobson are worshipping Jesus or think they are Jesus. Because of course Jesus said not “love thy enemy” but compare him to Hitler.

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