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Exhibit A In How Passion Can Cloud Logic

In hahahas,Native Americans,off-beat,politics,stupidity,U.S History,War on the rational/ logic on November 17, 2009 by Editor Z

It is almost common knowledge that when tea partiers and the more nativist elements of the less intellectual talk radio world of conservatives talk about illegal immigration, it predominately refers to those migrating from Mexico.

But one prankster at a recent rally in Minnesota this weekend, actually tricked the tea partiers into railing against European immigration, for their ethnic cleansing, genocide, and economic injustices against Native Americans. All something they only belatedly realized.

A speaker at an anti-immigration rally in St. Paul, Minnesota, this past weekend got the crowd to support more than just the deportation of all illegal immigrants — he got them cheering for the eviction of all European-descended immigrants to America who “stole this land through genocide and ethnic cleansing.”

A crowd of some 40 people showed up to the steps of the Minnesota State Capitol on Saturday to protest proposed reform of US immigration law. Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano said Friday that the Obama administration was pushing for immigration reform that would create a pathway for the legalization of undocumented immigrants.

Napolitano said she would like to see a “tough, fair” plan that would allow illegal migrants to gain legal status if they pay a fine, pass a criminal background check, pay all back taxes and learn English.

That idea brought 40 anti-immigration protesters to Saturday’s protest, as well as 30 pro-immigration reform counter-protesters, according to FightBackNews in Minneapolis.

One of those protesters, going by the alias “Robert Erickson,” got a speaking spot at the rally and used it to argue for the eviction of all descendants of European immigrants — in other words, that contingent of white Americans who these days see themselves as “real” Americans.


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Exhibit A In How Passion Can Cloud Logic

In ar on the rational/ logic,hahahas,Native Americans,off-beat,politics,stupidity,U.S History,War on the rational/ logic on November 17, 2009 by Editor Z

It is almost common knowledge that when tea partiers and the more nativist elements of the less intellectual talk radio world of conservatives talk about illegal immigration, it predominately refers to those migrating from Mexico.

But one prankster at a recent rally in Minnesota this weekend, actually tricked the tea partiers into railing against European immigration, for their ethnic cleansing, genocide, and economic injustices against Native Americans. All something they only belatedly realized.

A speaker at an anti-immigration rally in St. Paul, Minnesota, this past weekend got the crowd to support more than just the deportation of all illegal immigrants — he got them cheering for the eviction of all European-descended immigrants to America who “stole this land through genocide and ethnic cleansing.”

A crowd of some 40 people showed up to the steps of the Minnesota State Capitol on Saturday to protest proposed reform of US immigration law. Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano said Friday that the Obama administration was pushing for immigration reform that would create a pathway for the legalization of undocumented immigrants.

Napolitano said she would like to see a “tough, fair” plan that would allow illegal migrants to gain legal status if they pay a fine, pass a criminal background check, pay all back taxes and learn English.

That idea brought 40 anti-immigration protesters to Saturday’s protest, as well as 30 pro-immigration reform counter-protesters, according to FightBackNews in Minneapolis.

One of those protesters, going by the alias “Robert Erickson,” got a speaking spot at the rally and used it to argue for the eviction of all descendants of European immigrants — in other words, that contingent of white Americans who these days see themselves as “real” Americans.


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Why is McCain Such a Credible Voice on Afganistan?

In Foreign Affairs,History,neoconservatives,politics on October 12, 2009 by Editor Z

What I find interesting is that someone who voted for and has spoken fervently in support of the Iraq War which diverted resources from the war in Afghanistan and said in the long run we can just “muddle through” the war in Afghanistan; is taken seriously in this latest debate on possibly escalating troop levels there.


Don’t get me wrong, I am not one of those who thinks we should retreat from there immediately. After all Afghanistan is the war where there was a threat and where elements of Al-Queda have received aid and we should continue to battle to defeat or mollify such elements, though as we have seen in Iraq nation building is something that only bogs us down. People should remember that just because you throw money and soldiers at a problem does not automatically solve a problem, unless they have a solid strategy to guide them.

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Why is McCain Such a Credible Voice on Afganistan?

In Foreign Affairs,History,neoconservatives,politics on October 12, 2009 by Editor Z

What I find interesting is that someone who voted for and has spoken fervently in support of the Iraq War which diverted resources from the war in Afghanistan and said in the long run we can just “muddle through” the war in Afghanistan; is taken seriously in this latest debate on possibly escalating troop levels there.


Don’t get me wrong, I am not one of those who thinks we should retreat from there immediately. After all Afghanistan is the war where there was a threat and where elements of Al-Queda have received aid and we should continue to battle to defeat or mollify such elements, though as we have seen in Iraq nation building is something that only bogs us down. People should remember that just because you throw money and soldiers at a problem does not automatically solve a problem, unless they have a solid strategy to guide them.

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John Kyl (R-Arizona) Says Regime Change Should be Ultimate U.S Goal in Iran

In Chattering classes/punditry,Foreign Affairs,Iranian election aftermath,neoconservatives,nukes,politics,television on September 27, 2009 by Editor Z

This past week Iran was once again in the headlines. A Summer of violence inflicted on dissidents by the military and security forces following the Iranian Presidential “election” in June, as well as fears that the Islamic Republic could soon acquire nuclear weapons; have gained the country much attention and has created much concern.

Last week at the United Nations, the country’s “President” faced protests by those denouncing his brutish tactics against Iranian protesters in his own country. His diatribes against Israel and denial of the holocaust caused many to walk out during his speech before the United Nations last week. And intelligence of a subterranean facility connected to the country’s nuclear program; elicited rebukes and renewed talk of International sanctions by the United States, the United Kingdom, France, and even Russia to a lesser degree.

Now, as the United States remains mired in two Middle Eastern conflicts in Afghanistan and Iraq (both countries next to Iran), some of the neocons in the United States think maybe two millitary stalemates aren’t enough.

It appears that Senator John Kyl (R-AZ) and outgoing Senator Kit Bond (R-MO) are mulling regime change in Iran. Kyl and Bond who each appeared on Sunday morning political talk shows, aren’t yet urging an all out Iraq-style pre-emptive war just yet, nevertheless he says regime change should be the ultimate objective of the United States in its policy towards Iran.

“What we’re trying to do here eventually is get a regime change,” he said Sunday on NBC’s “Meet the Press.”

“Get a group of people in there that are more representative of the Iranian people, that we really can talk with in a way that might end up with a good result. I think it’s very difficult to do that with the current leadership and especially the elected president,” Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

My Pavlovian response to such rhetoric is usually a mix between a roll of the eyes, fear of another military adventure that ends in an outright fiasco, and anger that anyone could be stupid enough to be so cavalier after what we have endured with Iraq. But the so-called election this past Summer (and no Senator Kyl he isn’t the “elected President” of Iran he stole the election at least as far as we can tell) shows that there is a reservoir of suspicion and resentment towards Amadinejad that has gone beyond him and was so audacious as to be aimed even at the Mullahs who hold the real power in the country.

Action should be taken for sure, and as of now it appears that Obama is attempting to adopt the approach similar to that George HW Bush took in 1990 following the invasion of Kuwait by Iraq; attempting to build legitimacy with the International community specifically within the UN membership to denounce and punish Iran, rather then the bungled neoconservative model of the Iraq war.

As Josh Marshall on TPM points out, Secretary of Defense Robert Gates even says that any sort of military action towards Iran would have limited results. After attacking any facilities what is to say that Iran won’t immediately work to rebuild such capabilities? Would we once again be forced to militarily reconstructing the entire sociopolitical framework of a nation where we are viewed with suspicion and whose culture Americans by and large have little familiarity with? Such a move would further destabilize the global economy, driving further up the price of oil. Not all the weapons sites are likely known in Iran since U.S Intelligence in the country is scant at best if existent at all. It sits in a region where its two neighboring countries Iraq and Afghanistan have unstable, inept regimes that are seen as effective by much of their citizenry and are just possibly fragile enough to also be forced from power in reaction.

The international community would likely not stand alongside the United States and Israel in such an attack, and such talk would only cause Iran to expedite the development of a nuclear program and do something that this summer shows Ahmadinejad and the government were never able to do and that is make him legitimate in the eyes of the Iranian people. His tirades and fear mongering would be validated and any opening the U.S may have had with the Iran citizenry could be very well sealed shut if we are perceived as trigger happy. An attack on Iran could turn more of them against us and in the wake of such an attack we could see a flood of Iranians crossing into Iraq armed with a newly formed hatred in their hearts and thousands of U.S soldiers in their sights.

Finally, the government of Ahmadinejad is not the body that really hold the bulk of the decision making power is done by the mullahs and the Grand Ayatollah. In the larger configuration of things Ahmadinejad is a minute component in the more vast system of the Iranian elite.

If we have learned anything from nearly a decade of struggle and Afghanistan and our invasion of Iraq, its that War and regime change are something that is easy to spout off about, but violent, costly, and painstaking to carry out. We are already locked in two wars rebuilding two nations,to enter a third would be the most absurd and tragic of follies.

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The Political Dis of the Day

In hahahas,off-beat,politics,stupidity on September 15, 2009 by Editor Z

The contentious talk of health care reform has brought about many colorful and irrational characters and claims to the forefront. There are some legitimate questions in this often raucous dialogue (such as more specifics on just how the President hopes to pay for such reform), but the vitriol and personal hatred from those such as the “tea baggers”, the non sense and stupid conspiracy theories of the “birthers”, or Glenn Beck’s “9/12” project, a conservative political group fronted as a post- 9/11 unity group. Its kind of like the Blair Witch Project, except the ghosts are whiter, older, and more monolithically far right.

Our politicians need to be held accountable and be transparent in thier actions and proposals to be sure. But if they are on grounds that are devoid of any sound evidence, then those who give voice to such overtly outlandish claims are fair game for ridicule.

Rep. Pete Stark (D-CA), owned a anti-health care reformer at a town hall meeting in his district. After a lengthy list of grievances and with out proof asserting that Obama will raise taxes to pay for health care and other claims dismissed by Obama in last week’s speech before congress, the questioner said “Don’t pee on my leg and tell me its raining.”

Well it seems that the questioner had set himself up for a big slam down in terms of a comeback.

CNN:

First reported by the San Francisco Chronicle and confirmed by a YouTube clip of the event, the longtime congressman made the remark after the participant launched into a long, but calm, litany about government inefficiency when it comes to nation’s health care system. The man concluded his remarks with warning Stark not to “pee on my leg and tell me it’s raining.”

As the audience cheered, a calm Stark responded: “Well, I wouldn’t dignify you by peeing on your leg. It wouldn’t be worth wasting the urine.”

There was a mixture of laughter and boos as Stark motioned for the next question.


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Obama Captures Newt Gingrich’s Mind

In politics,stupidity,Video on September 8, 2009 by Editor Z

Well its happened.President Obama has given his national speech that has been shown in classrooms throughout the country. A number of parents (most whom probably didn’t vote for him and have a rabid loathing of anything to do with Obama) have objected, and a number of schools aren’t showing the speech. But already it seems to have borne the fruit of socialism, thanks to the hypnotic power of Obama. Former Congressman, Club for Growth President, and Pennsylvania Senatorial candidate Pat Toomey (R-PA) and Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, who has previously accused Obama of starting a dictatorship, has been brainwashed. His message? Stay in school!

Perhaps Toomey and Gingrich and other conservatives with at least a scintilla of reason, intellect, or political acumen realize just how stupid the rest of their peers sound. Back in the 1960s it was the conservative elements of America that voiced the most outrage about the message of “Turn on, tune in, and drop out”. Now it appears that the post rational message of many conservatives seems to be that only commies stay in school.

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